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Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« on: June 22, 2007, 01:58:58 PM »
Hey everyone!  8) Yes, I am with yet ANOTHER meal prep companies. (Will the madness ever end??!) I am with Pass Your Plate, based out of Edmond, OK. We are 18 stores strong with another 2 stores in 2 more states opening in a month and a half.

Nice to 'meet' you all!

Kristin
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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 07:27:01 AM »
Hey everyone!  8) Yes, I am with yet ANOTHER meal prep companies. (Will the madness ever end??!) I am with Pass Your Plate, based out of Edmond, OK. We are 18 stores strong with another 2 stores in 2 more states opening in a month and a half.

Nice to 'meet' you all!

Kristin
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I read briefly through Pass Your Plate's offering, and I am hard pressed to find real competitive advantages over competing meal assembly brands...most in the meal assembly industry claim the same freshness, customer-driven menu and store layout innovations, successful franchisor management, etc.  It also carries a standard $29.5k franchise fee + 6% royalty, irrespective of required upfront and ongoing purchases.

Hypothetical:
If in addition to Pass Your Plate there were 2 other meal assembly brands operating within a quarter mile, what will draw them to your stores versus the other stores?  At the end of the day, are all 3 the meal assembly brands interchangeable in the eyes of the customer?  Our readers are astute and will see through PR puff, so if there isn't a compelling differentiators that is fine, just say so.

Cheers.

Kristin

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 01:03:01 PM »
You know what is funny, before I started working here a few months ago, I did not even know the meal assembly industry exsisted!!

I was immediately immersed in both the industry and in Pass Your Plate (PYP) as well. That is a great question to ask and I'm going to answer it leaving out the PR fluff. We are based out of Edmond, Oklahoma (suburb to OKC). There are actually several situations here in OKC where we have one of our stores and within at least one mile, we have a comptetior. We have been told time after time from our customers that they either started out with our competition or they have strayed just to see what it's like on the 'other side'. We have a lot of customers that tell us that they liked PYP better for 3 reasons: 1) Better customer service 2) Better entrees - I'll talk about that in a few minutes and 3) better store layout.

1) We have people that RAVE over the way our store owners treat customers. At PYP - customers are not just customers. They are friends. Our owners have relationships with their communities and their customers so it's like visiting an old friend, not just making 12 dinners for the month.

2) Better entrees - I'm sure everyone gets their food from US Foods so I'm not necessarily talking about the quality of the food but our recepies. Our customers love the way our entrees, sides, desserts and breakfast items taste and how they are made. Several of our customers that have tried other places tell us that the food is not the same at other places that PYP's entrees are packed with flavor leaving the entire family wanting more.

3) When we were creating our stores in the very beginning, we had the advantage of checking out other stores in the meal preparation industry. Our stores are a little larger and have a different layout so that everyone is not cram packed into the store waiting to make the same entree in a line.

Now, you can take that information as you please but just know that it is not PR fluff! That is real feedback that we receive from our customers.  ;D

If you have any questions about our company, I would love to answer them for you!

Cheers to you!!

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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 01:05:12 PM »
One question for you: How is my blogging? I am completely new to this and I must say it is fun but somewhat intimadating!! haha!  :o

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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 06:17:20 PM »
I've certainly heard of Pass Your Plate, although I don't think there's one in my area.

Not to sound rude or condescending in anyway, but aren't the things you're listing the same ones every other store lists?

Customer service is indeed a huge factor, but that is luck on who you hire more than anything to do with the franchise. And even though the layout might be different, isn't the format of making the meals the same?

What specifically about the meals is different? Doesn't everyone have a head Chef and kitchen tested meals?

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 08:06:44 PM »
Hi Kristin,

The Franchise Pundit asked you to leave out the PR puff, and it doesn't seem you did, so I'll respond to your numbered list.

1. There isn't a store out there that can't say the exact same thing. Everyone has customers that rave about them. Owner relationships with communities are the core foundation of the original meal assembly business. In fact all small businesses must make themselves a part of the community; it?s the best way to promote your business without spending a fortune in advertising costs.  Small business 101?  Better customer service is a factor of who you hire and how you train them, it has nothing to do with the franchise itself.

2. Better entrees? Our customers love our entrees too. As do the customers of our competitors. We have customers that won't go back to the competitor. And I'm sure they have customers that won't come back to us. Its business, the customers will have a preference. That doesn't differentiate you from anyone else. As for US Foods versus SYSCO versus etc, it doesn't matter which distributor you choose, it's the quality of food you purchase. I know the distributor that we use also sells to several of our competitors. I have seen which products they have on their shelves and know it's the lower price version of any given product. The customers don't know the difference, we know we purchase the better product and hope the customers will enjoy the meal.  ?entees are packed with flavor?.?  I thought we were leaving the marketing fluff out.

3. I wouldn't exactly call it creating, although imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'm sure the companies that preceded yours are flattered.  Changing a wall color, rotating the stations and putting in a reception desk is hardly "creating". At least you didn?t go with the same colors everyone else did? nevermind.
All the stores are getting bigger, not exactly a groundbreaking innovation in my humble opinion. As for your statement about waiting to make an entr?e in a line, how exactly does having a bigger physical space make it any faster for the customer? More roomy yes, but faster? You still have 6 true(brand)  prep stations (real original) Don?t 99.9 percent of all meal assembly locations have 6 prep stations? (I say 99.9 because I never seen one with a different amount but there could be one out there) If you have more than 6 stations my apologies, but that?s all I could make out from your web page and other pictures posted on the web of your facilities.
I did notice that you only offer 12 meals where most of the industry offers 14, so at least that is a bit different. You also offer sides, desserts and breakfasts. Also a bit different, are these assembled by the customer or your staff or are they just purchased from the distributor and resold?


I guess the question posed to you was, how have you differentiated yourself in the industry? Each have 6 stations, offer 12 meals, online ordering, and private parties, choose 6, into offers, split meals, walk in hours, pre-assembled, grab n go.  It?s all the same. Some of it doesn?t make good business sense, but everyone is doing it.

To quote you. ?Yes, I am with yet ANOTHER meal prep companies. (Will the madness ever end??!)?

Let?s be clear, a copy is a copy is a copy.  Every one of these businesses is a copy of the original, and even if the original call themselves the grandmother of the industry, they got the idea from someone else.

Again, what makes PYP any different that the thousands of other meal assembly stores?
I look forward to your continued debate.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 11:16:19 AM »
Good morning all,

It seems as if I have hit a note with everyone here! I was honestly surprised to see the replies.  :D

I understand both of your points... Trust me! How are we different? Why do people come to our store instead of another store? What is the real reason? I do understand that everyone in the meal franchise business has a similar set up. That is true! I'm not going to deny that at all. We all have the stations with the food that goes in the aluminum containers or the zip lock bags. I guess you guys did not believe my statements yesterday, but I am telling you exactly what we have been told by our faithful customers why they assemble their families' meals with us and not someone else.

How are we different, for one, we were created in a state where only a handful of meal assembly kitchens had been set up. We were almost (not totally) brand new to the market in Oklahoma. PYP (like other meal assembly centers) has started key partnerships too. The first partnership is just now starting to roll out. It is a partnership with Montana Legend to sell premium steaks in our stores. So far, this has been very popular!

The beauty about our conversation is that this is business at its best. If there were only one or two chains providing this service, would we get the best quality of everything or would people constantly try to strive and do better? That's precisley why consumers (as a whole) do not like monopolies. Let's look at hamburger joints. They all sell hamburgers with ketchup and mustard on them (and pickles unfortunately). I can tell you right now that I only go to one place to get a hamburger. I CAN tell a difference in the quality between certain places. So when I say that our entrees are different than the competition, I'm leaving the fluff out. We do not sell the exact same thing as other places. We don't share recipes. We don't have braided bread for one thing! We are not an exact copy!! Our customers like our food. Yes, all places do have the chef with the tested food and everything else, but isn't the food what we are selling? That is our product. If customers don't like the end product, they either go somewhere else or don't come back.

Our sides, desserts and breakfast items are produced by our staff in the store. They are our recipes. Our customers love them! (As do I  ;)) Speaking of which, I need to go run to work it off!! haha!

When I mentioned that our stores strive for customer service, we have been told by our customers that other meal assembly places do not get to know them as well as we do at PYP. It is not simply the luck factor, we find the people who are right for our company to make sure that our customers get the personal attention that they deserve. We want our customers to have a name, not just a number.

So yes, we are a lot like other stores. No debating that. This industry is around for a specific reason - that is the need for it. We offer products and services that our customers ask for and that work for them - just as your customers use you!

I guess in conclusion, I would like to say simply, "May the best man win!" That's what good business is all about. The customer wins.

Looking forward to furthering our conversation Mealblogger! I prefer that word versus debate. It's nicer!

Kristin

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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 02:02:55 PM »
Remember - please don't slam me!!! This is my 4th or 5th post ever! And believe it or not, I'm trying to make friends :)

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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 03:37:39 PM »
Hi Kristin, glad to see you back.

If nothing else you are excited about your franchise which is always a good thing to see.

But with all due respect, I still hold that your comments are very subjective. I liken them to:

World?s greatest cup of coffee
World?s greatest hamburger


They?re catchy slogans, but it?s not something you can ?hang your hat? on.

I was hoping for a more substantiated list like:

  • To make 12 meals with us costs $X. The same meals at another store costs $Y
  • We have a full line of organic products
  • Our chicken breasts/steaks/pork chops, etc are 8oz not 4 or 6 like out competitors
  • For every 3 trips to our store you get a meal free
  • If you buy 12 meals you get one free through our website
  • Earn rewards with our referral program

So again, in looking at one store versus another, they are all making the same claim. And of course who wouldn?t? No one is going to say their food isn?t the best.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 04:36:42 PM »
Hey Tuckerbox!

Thanks for being easy on me!

I see what you are saying, but the only problem with giving you specifics is that in every store it is different. Some stores don't offer some food (sometimes it is based upon regional availablity) and specials differ from store to store too! I wish I could give you something besides my generalities, however, because of the uniqueness, I really can't! Wait - is that a selling point!  ;)

As I mentioned in my last blog, we are rolling out several new items. The first of those big new things is our partnership with Montana Legend, producer of premium steaks. There enlies the problem again though... Those are only sold at participating locations.

Well, as you mentioned, I'll be a PYP cheerleader - even if it is expected!

Have a great evening everyone.

Kristin

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 06:58:01 PM »
Kristin,
I think the point that others are making is...

You mention that your customers are satisfied and keep coming back.  That is great; but know that other stores can make the same claim.  Another poster mentioned it...consumer preference.  There is a limited market of customers; if more stores come to your area, it will dilute your success and ultimately cause a shakedown.

Also, glanced at your menu on the website.  Looks delicious (don't they all?!), but I will say the nutritionals on some of the meals were a differentiator...and not in a good way. :(

Specifically:
Philly burgers - 17g of saturated fat (87% if USRDA for a 2,000 calorie diet) in one serving
Cheesy manicotti - also high in fat
Mac and cheese - ditto
Prairie Breakfast Bake - Holy smoking heart disease...check the cholesterol, sodium, and fat content.

I'm not trying to flame you here...you need to hear it from your peers.  It is easy to make food taste great if you cut loose on the butter, cream, cheese, and smoked meats.  The challenge is making healthy food taste great.  The US is in an epidemic of obesity that will cost us all...don't let your competitive differentiator be on this point.

Your enthusiasm is apparent and that is great.  Hope you don't mind the reality bites...


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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 10:06:36 PM »
Kristin, an FYI--and I'm not saying this to be mean, just a heads-up:  Your comments here are called posts, not blogs.  A blog is an individual/stand-alone page of someone's thoughts/musings, much like a journal---"blog" is short for "web log".

Good luck with PYP!

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 10:08:47 PM »
ooops--I see you figured that out on your own; guess I should have read more closely!

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 09:59:00 AM »
Hello again all,

Go West, I want to let you know that our nutritionals are way off!!! Don't worry - we are not as bad as it looks. We are in the process of fixing that HUGE problem! I looked at it too and thought the same thing!

You know, I'm seriously begging to wonder if it will ever quit raining in Oklahoma! We are on our 17th straight day of rain in OKC. We have had close to 6" since the beginning of this week alone with 4-6 more before Sunday (two days from now!!). Not trying to change the subject, but it is beginning to get really depressing.

I love hearing from everyone! I do think that the way that all companies grow is from constructive critisim which is what I have  been hearing. Please! If you have any more, don't shy away, please let me know!!

Thanks for all of your feedback and input. I am going to take your thoughts and work on how we can make PYP stronger!

If I don't check this today again, have a great weekend all!!

Kristin

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Re: Anyone heard of Pass Your Plate??
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2007, 02:52:21 AM »
My comments on "Pass your Plate"...

Well let me see, so far we know enough about this company that they hire an ex-cheerleader (Give me a "P"...Give me a "A"...Give me an "S"...) who has "months of experience in the industry" who works for a company that is so "f'ed" up they can't even edit there own website (yep webmasters as so hard to come by these days) and they are expanding in a market saturated by "also-rans", "me-toos", and successful "roll your owns" but we are assured that they are "kicking tail and taking names"...

To be honest I cannot fathom why anyone would pay anything for any one of these concepts as a franchise; explain to me what is the innate franchise value in this industry?  No one gives a flying fox about "brands" in this industry.   And why on earth would I fork over a percentage of every single dollar that comes in the door, without regard to whether it represents profit or not, to someone who effectively contributes nothing.   

Now I do understand that many people want things handed to them on  a silver platter and are simply too lazy to think for themselves and for those I have no sympathy, but frankly your posts do not say "we prey on the idleness of others" or "we prey on the stupidity of others", instead you try and market this as if there was some advantage in the concept to someone other than the founders and employees of "Pass the Plate". 

Let's be clear here, I think the industry concept is fine, I just cannot imagine why anyone would consider a franchise in this arena.   And this industry will evolve, and not in a good way.  For one, you will have no brand loyalty, simply because anything you can do anyone else can do, so low price producer will get the prize, or organic producer or whatever niche you want to play within that market.  And then within that niche the menu of the month will eventually determine your customer flow for that month.  I know a few people who use these things religiously, and they float from one establishment to another based on what looks good that month.  In the end that means you will be forced to expand offerings and eat food cost or cede customers to the competition effectively neutralizing the advantage of branding.  So now what are you paying that advertising fee for?  Oh yeah, so you can advertise stuffed peppers for July while Edie and Jennifer's Meal Prep is offering lasagna. 

Cripes, my check book just keeps flipping open and for some reason and I have to fight my hand to keep from writing the check...

I think I'll take a pass on "Pass the plate"...
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